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Pro “Gun” versus Anti “Gun” facts! did you know?

The Anti-Gun Crowd likes to state that there should be no more deaths due to “Guns”. They do not like the facts that many more people would be saved if they were to take up Vehicle safety! They like to believe that every death in the U.S. is caused by a “Gun”. They attribute 30,000+ deaths a year to firearm homicide when in fact 19,000+ are suicide. Do not get me wrong 11,000+ deaths by homicide are horrible! But lets use correct facts when we want to fight to relieve all Americans of their rights under the constitution.

Below is a comment that I posted after a commenter stated there were “Bullet Ridden Bodies”:

It seems you see to many movies. Most bodies are not “bullet ridden”. Have you personally ever seen a bullet ridden body yourself, or are you sensationalizing the deaths just as our media does. This loss of life, as is any loss of life, is tragic. Almost similar numbers of deaths caused by car accidents. Are you also going to take a stand on these deaths? These bodies crushed beyond recognition? No wait that is not how most people die in an accident either, that was “sensationalizing”. Lets compare real world facts about the deaths in our country!

Wikipedia;
On average in 2012, 92 people were killed on the roadways of the U.S. each day in 30,800 fatal crashes.

More than 2.5 million deaths occur in the US every year.

Center for Disease Control and Prevention numbers:
2011: 2,513,171
2010: 2,468,435
These numbers do not include unborn babies who miscarry or are aborted.

Of the 2,400,000-plus Americans who die each year, over 45,000 are killed in transport accidents. The number of homicides, poisonings, and drunk driving fatalities are roughly the same, at around 17,000 each. Perhaps more surprisingly, a stunning 178,000 Americans die from medical or hospital error every year.

me:
Seems like there are a numbers of “other” causes of deaths in the U.S. that need your attention. It is terrible that medical errors kill more than five times as many people as guns. In fact medical errors kill more people than “guns”, vehicles and suicide combined!
In 2011, the latest figure available from the Centers for Disease Control,

Accidental discharge 851
Suicide 19,766
Homicide 11,101
Undetermined Intent 222

Total: At least 31940 people died from gun injuries in 2011.

Also 258 people were killed during legal intervention, most of them due to guns. (justifiable homicides?)

Guns were involved, but were not the primary cause of death:
-in 2 fatal accidents.
-in 6 homicides.

Previous years:
2010 31,328 people
2009 31,177 people
2007 31,224 people
2004 29,569 people
All suicides
•Number of deaths: 39,518
•Deaths per 100,000 population: 12.7
•Cause of death rank: 10

Firearm suicides
•Number of deaths: 19,990
•Deaths per 100,000 population: 6.4

Suffocation suicides
•Number of deaths: 9,913
•Deaths per 100,000 population: 3.2

Poisoning suicides
•Number of deaths: 6,564
•Deaths per 100,000 population: 2.1

CDC Homicides 2011:
All homicides
•Number of deaths: 16,238
•Deaths per 100,000 population: 5.2

Firearm homicides
•Number of deaths: 11,068
•Deaths per 100,000 population: 3.6

me:
So 45%, or there about, of suicides are not firearm related. So if you eliminate firearms in one magic swoop, you will eliminate 50% of suicides? Sorry that is not how it works. They will use some other method since they cannot get access to a firearm! Suicide is more of a problem than homicide. That is a sad reflection on the mental health issues in our country.
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So in summation. About 2.5 million people die in the U.S. every year. Almost 40,000 suicides per year, almost half of those are with a firearm. 45,000 per year (120+ per day) are vehicle accidents. And 178,000 are by medical errors(480+ per day). So in all the 11,000+ Homicides were firearms out of the 16,000+ total homicides, about 2/3rds (43+ per day, 30+ per day by firearms). So gun related homicides make up 25% of the total deaths per day if you exclude the medical errors. If you include the medical errors they only make up 5% of the deaths per day!

We should be looking into curing all causes of death, not just the “GUNS”. The money that is blown every year trying just to outlaw “guns” would make big inroads into providing mental health care to prevent suicides and the “mass” killings. Suicide kills more people per day than homicides, this is a pretty poor statement of the mental health care in the U.S.! The Media should be focusing on all causes of death here not just a specific issue that they want to do away with.

The justification “If we could just save one life” (the Anti-gun war cry) is hollow. We can save many more than just one life, But it does not have to be by eliminating a Right that is guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States!

Richard